The Rapture: What and When?

By Oscene Barrett/Jesus Son
(09/09/2007)


The word "rapture" is not in the English Bible but is found in the Greek and Latin texts. It is one of the most popular phrases within Christendom concerning the second coming of Jesus. The question which must now be asked is how such a word can develop into a false meaning of a pre-tribulation secret snatch?

There are many false meanings applied to biblical terms and phrases that are very popular among professing Apostolics. The popularity is increased when we add other denominations who use the same false meanings. Jesus Name Pentecostals should examine and define these words and give them a true Apostolic meaning that is not trinitarian invented.

Apostolics are noted for strict use of scriptures for correct interpretation. We must apply the same devotion and rules to such words as "rapture" and "Apostolic." As a devout Apostolic I believe we must reject unscriptural interpretations such as dispensationalism, the trinity, dual covenant theology, and use of the unbiblical words such as "halleluyah," and "shekinah."

These doctrines and terms are being used in Apostolic churches and they are all false. The real truth on these doctrines and the use of these unscriptural terms must be discussed openly. As Apostolics we must demand that these doctrines and terms be explained and defined properly and insist on scriptures to prove them right or wrong. If they are correct then there will be no objection. But if they are false, every Apostolic minister and Believer should reject and oppose them. The rapture issue must come under examination, severe scrutiny, and criticism where it is false. What is the truth on the rapture and when it will take place in the future? The following study is written to dispel the myths and falsehoods of trinitarian prophecy interpretations by answering the following questions."

· What is the rapture?

· Different rapture position.

· Where would the church be when Jesus comes?

· The coming of Jesus.

· Whether you are dead are alive you will be with Jesus if you are faithful to him.

· The dead will rise (resurrect) first.

· Who will be rapture?

· Difference between the resurrection sequence in 1Cor 15; 1Thess4; and Rev 20

· Comparing Passages with the last Trumpet.

· Comparing Passages with the harvesting

What is the Rapture?

"Rapture" is translated from the Latin word "Rapturio", which mean "Caught up, Caught away, or Catching away"; therefore rapture means the catching away, or the caught up of the saints both dead and alive when Jesus returns. This is the only meaning of this word; it does not mean the "Second phase" of a "Three Phase" mystical resurrection that started with Jesus resurrection after three days in the tomb; the second phase being at the start, mid-way, or three quarters way into the Tribulation; and last at the end of the Tribulation. To know when this caught up will be, we consult the bible and not Kabala, Dispensationalism, or Mystery Babylonian Talmud. There is only one passage in the bible which uses the phrase "caught up" as it relates to the resurrection and translation of the saints; and this is 1Thess 4:13-18. I will carefully navigate through this passage using proper hermeneutics in order to set forth the simple Apostolic Truth that is been taught there. Corresponding passages will also be discussed especially those that deal with the coming of the Lord and the resurrection of the saints.

Different rapture timing

There are many theological arguments on the rapture. The major point of variance is when it will occur; hence, there are many different opinions on the timing of this event. Prophecy views on the rapture are classified into two general categories: "Historist" and "Futurist".

The Historist view:

The idea here is that the resurrection is Past (Past-trib / Preterist); hence the rapture took place in past history. The Preterist teach that the entire prophetic portions of the Bible including the book of Revelation were fulfilled in AD70 when the temple on Mount Morieh was destroyed by the Roman general Titus. The antichrist, the mark of the beast, the second coming of Jesus, pestilence, earthquakes, all the wrath under the seven vials (Rev 16), all of Matthew 24, which includes pestilence and earthquakes in divers places, stars falling from heaven, etc are claimed to have all taken place befor 70AD. They also teach the millennial reign of Jesus began in 70AD and the devil is now bound.

They essentially believe that there is no future literal millennial reign; hence they are called AMILLENIST. If you read 2Tim 2:16-17, you will learn that Paul delivered Two Young Ministers over to the devil because of this very doctrine. Origin and Augustine is said to be responsible for the modification of the doctrine of Hymenaeus and Philetus, which is now been preached out of many professing Apostolic pulpits. This doctrine has Gnosticism (from which we get Catholicism) written all over it and it is as false as the doctrine of the Trinity.

Let us consider for a moment the prophecy in Matthew chapter 24 to see if it supports Preterism in any way.

"And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? Verily I say unto you, there shall not be left here one stone upon another that shall not be thrown down. And as he sat upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying; tell us, when shall these things be? And what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? (Matt 24:1-3)"

The prediction of the "entire" destruction of the "buildings of the temple" in Jerusalem and more so when it will it occur has been wrestled by many to their own peril. Jesus showed his Apostles the "Buildings of the Temple", which includes the Temple, tower of Antonia, gates, etc. Then he called their attention to the subject of his discussion by saying, "See ALL these things", that is, look at, pay close attention to, behold ALL (not some of) the buildings of the Temple. Now when their eyes were fixed on the buildings, he made his predictions that all these stones shall be thrown down. Note the prophecy did not just say the temple will be destroyed, but that all the stones of the buildings that were visible including the temple, shall be thrown down. Therefore, if some of the stones were thrown down at some point in the past, how ever dreadful or significant that event might be; the prophecy would still be unfulfilled.

The Apostles out of curiosity questioned Jesus as to the time frame in which all these things will happen. It is accepted that their three part questions in verse 3 are all related. The Apostles knew that the ultimate fulfillment of the prophecy will take place when Jesus returns, which marks the end of the world or church age. As a result, they ask for signs or markers that will indicate when he will come, which will serve to indicate when all the stones of the buildings will be cast down. Jesus' reply span some 29 verses recorded in Matthew 24:4-33. Here he concluded the markers by saying he will return AFTER the cosmic calamites (sign in the sun, moon and stars), which are AFTER the Great Tribulation (verse 29-31).

It is believed by the Catholic Church and supporters of Covenant Dispensation that all of the stones were cast down in 70 AD. But, the following is recorded by Josephus who was alive in the time when Titus and his armies plundered the great city;

"When he [Titus] entirely demolished the rest of the city, and overthrew its walls, he left these towers [the one mentioned above] as a monument of his good fortune, which had proved [the destructive power of] his auxiliaries, and enabled him to take what could not otherwise have been taken by him" (War VI.9,1).

The "Western gate" part of which is now referred to as the "Wailing wall" was a part of the building of the temple Jesus showed his disciple from Mount Olivet. Modern excavation on Mount Morieh now reveals that there are thousands of stones that were visible to Jesus and his Apostles that are stocked on each other untouched as from the time Jesus predicted their destruction. What these modern theologians fail to admit is that the Roman armies build dirt rampart around the walls of the city to bring their battering rams close to the walls and it is these stones that were covered by dirt that modern excavation are now revealing. These I must say are crying out for an unfulfilled judgment. What are these stones saying? Answer, they are saying:

· That ALL of the prophecy in Matthew 24 is not yet fulfilled, even though the temple was rendered desolate by Titus and friends. What happened in 70 AD did not and could not exhaust ALL the prophecy of Matthew 24.

· To teach that all the prophetic portions of the scriptures were fulfilled in 70 AD in order to teach Amillennialism is falsehood.

· To teach that all the questions the Apostles asked in Matthew 24:3 relates only to the Jews and not the church just to get antichrist Jews to be saved via a re-enacted law keeping and animal sacrifice is a dispensational lie. The coming of the Lord is the blessed hope of the Church (Tit 2:13) and it is after the tribulation.

To conclude, Amillenialism is a false doctrine, which makes New Testament Passover observance and holiness preaching a preacher's jokes.

The Futurist view:

The primary idea here is that the rapture is still future. Because futurist believe the rapture will come before the millennial reign of Christ they are called PREMILLENIAL. Pre-millennialist are further divided into PRE-TRIB (rapture at the beginning of an alleged 7 year Tribulation); MID-TRIB (rapture in the middle of an alleged 7 years Tribulation); PRE-WRATH (rapture ¾ way into an alleged 7 years Tribulation); and POST-TRIB (rapture after the Tribulation when Jesus comes the second time - Matt 24:29-31). All Pre-millennialist believe in the future mark of the beast, chaining of the devil, an after tribulation coming of Jesus, 1000 years literal reign of Christ on earth. All believe the coming antichrist and the Tribulation are still future.

Pre-trib, Mid-trib, and Pre-wrath are born out of Covenant Dispensationalism, which was invented by Edward Irving and John Nelson Darby in the 1830s. It teaches time is divided into seven (7) distinct time periods which they call Dispensations. This interpretation cannot be found in the scriptures. Here we see Trinitarians developing new doctrine as they did the trinity. What they have now done is invent a "Non-biblical esoteric mystery". It teaches a "GAP" interpretation of Daniel's seventy (70) weeks prophecy (see Dan 9). This means that between the 69th and the 70th week there is a "GAP" known as the Church age "Great Parenthesis." This time period is so long we are said to be still in it even as you are reading this study. It is a mystery first completely revealed by John Darby. He put all the pieces together from several theories of other men and women. Ever since he unlocked prophecy interpretation he has been praised as the "Illuminated" one. Into this "Gap" he placed a "Mystery", which he claim is the unknown "Church age" or the "Dispensation of Grace," hidden in a valley between two mountain tops of prophecy (the mystery of the secret church age). He claimed the Dispensation of Grace will last until the end of the Gap which is at the pre-tribulation rapture. Thus he and later trinitarian dispensationalist believe that Daniel's seventieth (70th) week was not fulfilled in direct succession of the 69th week as the scripture reports it. Instead, the new trinitarian interpretation is that the 70th week was postponed because not enough Jews accepted Jesus Messieh's Kingdom and gave him a throne.

The theory developed is that the Kingdom, which was to be set up by Jesus during the 70th week as Daniel predicted, was postponed. This is the basis of a new trinitarian doctrine called "Kingdom Dispensationism". If you believe in the seventh dispensation, that is called "Kingdom dispensationism," you are believing a trinitarian invented doctrine.

What exactly is the belief of those who believe and preach the seventh week dispensational doctrine?

· The Kingdom was postponed

· The Kingdom was postponed because not enough Jews would join it, but they will during the future great tribulation.

But why did many Jews not become a part of the Kingdom of Jesus Messieh on the day of Pentecost?

· Because they did not accept Peter's preaching that Jesus was their promised Messieh.

It is now clear that trinitarian Covenant Dispensation and more explicitly the "Seven Dispensation" doctrine is false, because it supports Zionist and Talmudic Pharisee Jews who are antichrist and claim Jesus was not the Messieh. The Apostle John said anyone who does not believe that Jesus is the Messieh is an Antichrist regardless of their religion, age, gender, or race (1John 2:22; 2John:7); hence teachers and supporters of dispensationalism are a part of the antichrist system by a rule of Apostolic faith.

There are no scriptures, which require a large number of Jews to be in the Kingdom or else it will be postponed. Neither are there any to support the idea of a postponed kingdom for any reason whatsoever. Let us consider the following text:

"Esaias (Isaiah) also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved (Rom 9:27)."

This prophecy was first recorded by Isaiah, but the Apostle Paul was adding an apostolic interpretation to it. Though Israel may number in the millions only a remnant, that is, a very small amount (not majority or half, but a remnant) will be a part of the New Covenant Kingdom. This further proves there is no need for a greater number of Jews to be in the Kingdom or it would have to be postponed until many Jews were willing to enter. Jewish rebellion cannot thwart the plan of God.

The Kingdom is the Church to which the Apostle Peter was given the Keys (Matt 16:18-19). The kingdom came at Pentecost where the Holy Ghost fell on the 120 men and women waiting in the upper room on Mount Zion (Mark 9:1-2; Acts 1:8; 2:1-9). Peter, the man with the keys, preached the first message opening the door of the Kingdom to all Jews present. He also later introduced the Kingdom to Gentiles everywhere (Acts 2:17-39; 10:34-48). The door has never been closed. But dispensationalist claim the Kingdom door is now shut and preaching to enter the Kingdom was postponed. But what of Jews and Gentiles ever since the day of Pentecost who have pressed and are pressing into the Kingdom as you are reading this study?

Covenant dispensationalism teaches that Israel and the Church are two separate things. That is, the Church is not the Israel of God as the Apostles reported it, but a Gentile bride. This phenomenon is referred to as "Israel-Church Dichotomy". Because dispensationalist have perverted "Typology" they reject that the Church is spiritual Israel. They have put back up the torn down wall and the Jews and Gentiles separate. They made the Church into a Gentile Bride to whom the New Covenant marriage belongs. They claim Jews and Israel do not belong to this New Covenant marriage. The Old Covenant and the Covenant of Abraham is said to belong exclusively to Israel, the wife of God the Father. This is what they called "Dual Covenant Theology". The old Covenant is between Israel and God the Father and the new Covenant is between the Gentile church and God the Son. This teaches that the Old and the New Covenant are still both in operation and that the Old were not ended at Calvary. It teaches no one in the New Covenant is a part of the Abraham Covenant. It teaches Paul was wrong in his doctrine that those in Christ were counted as the seed of Abraham (Gal 3:29). As a result dispensationalist claim the Jews do not need to observe Act 2:38 for the saving of their soul. Generation after generation can live and die and be saved without Christ by keeping the Law. They can continue to reject Jesus Messieh's offering for sin on Calvary and still be considered the holy people of God. But, they claim during the coming tribulation many millions of Jews will flock to Christ with the preaching of the 144,000 Jewish evangelists and these will be given the right with all the other Jews to live in the millennial. These will be those in the so-called Ezekiel's millennial temple while the Gentile bride is in the New Jerusalem with God the Son. They have not explained how God the Son will be in the New Jerusalem with the Gentile bride and still be in person in Jerusalem for 1,000 years with Israel the wife of God the Father.

Now, for the truth. The Bible teaches that the "Church" is the body of believers consisting of both Jews and Gentiles who obey Acts 2:38 for the salvation of their souls. Jews and Gentiles both form the one Kingdom, the body of believers in the Church. The Church then is the one sheepfold Jesus predicted would unite by him after the ratification of the New Covenant on Calvary. There is now then one sheepfold and one shepherd (John 10:16). The bible does not teach that there is a Gentile Church and a separate Jewish Church. There is one Church, which is the chosen generation (1Pet 2:9). The Scriptures teach that the Church started out completely Jewish with Gentiles grafted into it and will remain that way even though not many natural Jews in each living generation are in it. The Apostle Paul said that the members in particular of the one body of Jesus Messieh (1Cor 12:26) are Jews who form the Israel of God (Rom 2:27-29; Gal 6:16). Paul's teaching on the "Olive Tree" in Romans 11 was explicit on the fact that the Olive tree is Israel. Off this tree the unbelieving Jews were broken leaving the believers, but believing Gentiles were engrafted in to replace the broken off unbelieving Jews.

This is faith, not in the abstract, but faith with an object, that is, faith in Jesus the Messieh. "Believers" according to the context of Romans 11 are those who have a pure biblical faith in Jesus Messieh, thus they accepted that he is the Christ. Now, are these Gentile converts who were engrafted into the olive tree and a part of the Church made one with Pharisee Talmudism, Zionism, or any other sect of Judaism during the early Church? It is clear from the passage that Gentiles are a part of the existing church; thus the Jewish church is the olive tree of Romans 11, which is the true Israel. There is therefore "One Olive Tree", which is the "True Israel", which is the "Israel of God" or the New Testament Apostolic Church.

Yes, the church is Jewish, which would also mean that there is "New Testament Judaism". Please do not preach this truth until you receive the Apostles Doctrine, because many professing Apostolic do not like what is written here. The Old Judaism ended when the Old Covenant ended at Calvary (Rom 7:1-7; Eph 2:15; Heb 8:13). However, these Jews who are a part of this New Testament Judaism are not Jews by default, that is, individuals who were born to Jewish parents; neither are these Jews or subsequent Gentiles made one and converts to Phariseeism, Sadduceeism, Zionism, or Old Testament Judaism. They are converts of the Apostles of whom Jesus is the Christ. They are the "New Testament Proselytes", that is, they are "Jews by choice". If you have obeyed Acts 2:38 for your salvation you are a "Jew by choice". Natural Jews who were added to the Church in Acts 2, subsequent added Jews, and Gentile Jews by Choice are the only Jews that God considers his elect, his chosen, and his saints (Rom 2:18-19).

This last week of Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy is referred to by dispensationalist as the "Time of Jacob's Trouble", which many claim is the "Great Tribulation". Since each day represent a year: a week would then represent seven years. So they calculate the duration of the Great Tribulation to be seven (7) years and by doing so they have corrected the Apostle John who was told that it would be only 3 ½ years (Rev 13:5). Because the 70 weeks of Daniel prophecy was intended to be under the Old Covenant, many are claiming that the Law will be revived and God will again accept the blood of animal offerings, etc. this is why we have so many "Apostolic Cowboys" who are preaching the false "Pure Red Heifer doctrine".

Most if not all Pre-tribs, Mid-tribs, and Pre-wraths believe in a Great Tribulation spanning 7 years, so their rapture position is calculated using this assumption. However, I have proven that "dispensationalism" is a false trinity doctrine. Now the fact is "Jacob's trouble" was the first 70 years Israel spent in Babylon captivity (see Jer. 29-30) to which the "Great Tribulation" is not an antitype. Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy including the 70th week was fulfilled and no part of it remains future. Thus the "Gap" interpretation and postponed Kingdom arguments of dispensationalism and pre-trib rapturism are falsehoods. Since they are false then the revived law doctrine for tribulation Jews is also false. Therefore, these "Apostolic Cowboys" are deceivers looking for money to get a red heifer for Jews to sacrifice in Jerusalem to please God.

The Post-trib rapture position is the only one that aligns itself to the Apostles teaching. It teaches that there is a single coming of Jesus after the tribulation that is in the future before us (Matt 24:29-31). Since Paul says the Saints will be rapture when Jesus comes (1Thes 4:13-17); which according to Jesus' own prediction is after the Tribulation; we conclude the church will be on earth during the Tribulation and raptured at the end. Anything less is not in the scriptures and anything more is not Apostolic.

ConsideringThe Rapture Text

"But I would not have you to ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleeps in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we who are alive remain shall be CAUGHT UP together with them in the clouds, to MEET the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words" (1Thess 4:13-18).

Recall that this is only passage that used the phrase "caught up" or rapture as it relates to the resurrection of dead saints and the bodily translation of the living saints. Note: the resurrection and the living caught up both occur at the one second coming of Jesus. Paul's focus is on the one future coming of the Lord, and by so doing he uses the opportunity to encourage the saints in Thessalonica that whether dead or alive at Jesus' coming they will be with him. What are some of the things that the Apostle is teaching us here?

The Church will be on earth until Jesus return.

If we accept that the word church from the Greek "EKKLESIA" means the called out, the chosen, the sanctified who obey Acts 2:38; then we can easily see that the Apostle had these persons, members in particular (1Cor 12:27) on earth until Jesus comes. This is what he said,

"For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. We who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them (dead resurrected saints) in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air…" (1Thes 4:15, 17).

Notice the phrase "We which (who) are alive and remain" how it ties the two ideas in the two verses above into one. The first is the coming of the Lord with the resurrection of the dead; and the second been translation of the live saints. Both are occurring at the same time, which is the "Coming of the Lord". Paul did not need to repeat the phrase "Unto the coming of the Lord" in verse 17, since the subject of his discussion was already established.

The subject is the coming of the Lord and what will happen to the saints, both dead and alive when this great event shall take place. The pronoun "we" can only be used to refer to "New Testament Acts 2:38 SAINTS" with the phrase "Them which are asleep" would be referring to dead saints of both Old and New Testament. There can be no ambiguity as it relates to when the Church will be rapture; the text said it will be when Jesus returns, so our job is to determine from the scripture when he is coming back, that is, whether it is before, during or after the Tribulation.

The coming of the Lord Jesus.

The focus of Paul preaching here is the "Coming of the Lord"; and more specifically "What will happen when he comes as it relates to the saints whether dead are alive". Now is there any Pre-trib, Mid-trib or Pre-wrath coming in the Passage? No there is not. Did he say the coming of the Lord will be before or during the Tribulation? No! Let us look at what he said,

"For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep."

There you have it, he simply said "coming of the Lord". Paul did not say the coming of the Lord will be after the Tribulation either, but is this proof that Post-tribs have no argument as well? Answer, no. Paul do not have to state specifically that the coming of the Lord is after the Tribulation for one to believe that coming of the Lord is after the Tribulation, but it would have to be stated that it is before or during the Tribulation for it to be claimed. Why is this so? The reason is that Jesus had already placed his coming "AFTER the Tribulation" according to the Apostles' Doctrine (Matt 24:29-31; Mark 13; Luke 21; Acts 2), so for him to teach another coming that is different from the one Jesus taught his Apostle, he would HAVE TO STATE THAT IT IS DIFFERENT, but he did not. This proves that Paul's doctrine on the "Coming of the Lord" is no different from the one Jesus taught in the Olivet Discourse.

Consider for example water baptism. Remember that not every scripture which tell us about "Water baptism" gives all the details of how it was done. For example, when Philip baptized the Ethiopian Eunuch (Acts 8:34-38), the Bible did not record how it was done. However, since in Acts 8:12, 16 Philip baptized the converts of Samaria that believed on his preaching in the name of Jesus: it was not necessary for the recorder to give all these details again, but simply say that he was baptized. In order for it to be claimed that the baptismal mode or formula was changed it would have to be STATED ALONG WITH THE NEW, but this was not done. Hence the only clear and logical conclusion would be that Philip baptized the Ethiopian Eunuch the same way he baptized the converts of Samaria, which is, in Jesus' name.

Recall that the coming that Jesus taught is after the Tribulation (Matt 24:29-31). Here the Apostles asked Jesus, "What shall be the sign of thy coming"? They did not want to know the exact time when he will return, but requested to know the things that must happened before he returns. This they refer to as the "Signs of thy Coming". Jesus told them about wars, famine, earthquakes, pestilence, apostasy, persecutions, which must be endured unto the end, the Tribulation with the shortening of its days, and the cosmic calamities such as signs in the sun, moon and stars; then he will return.

"Immediately after the Tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors (Matt 24: 29-33).

Matthew 24:29-33 support exactly what I have been saying all along, with the underlined portions expressing that very clearly. Immediately after the Tribulation we have the cosmic calamities and then Jesus will come. Verse 33 is the most beautiful, where he said, "When ye shall see all these things (not some of these things), know that it (His coming in verse 3, 30) is at the door." Read Luke 21:25-31 for more confirmation and note WHEN he said that we are to "Look up for your redemption draweth nigh".

It is clear that Jesus taught a Post Tribulation coming on Mount of Olives and since Paul did not and could not correct Jesus; therefore, the "Coming of Jesus" in Paul's writing is also AFTER the Tribulation. To conclude here, the Greek word from which coming is translated in 1Thess 4:16 is "Parousia", which is used to mean the coming of a King and is the same Greek word use for "Coming" in 2Thess 2:8, which says that "The Wicked" who is the antichrist will be destroy at the coming of Jesus. Thus the Antichrist, who is the "Man of Sin", must come before Jesus return in order for him to be destroyed by Jesus' coming. This further proves that Paul was teaching a Post-trib coming of the Lord.

Why is all this important? It is important because Paul placed the rapture at the coming of the Lord; therefore, anytime Jesus comes, it is there the rapture will be. It is clear from the Bible that there is one coming of Jesus before us and it is after the Tribulation. The rapture will be AFTER THE TRIBULATION; hence, Post-trib. The Post-trib rapture is a part of the Apostles' Doctrine.

The faithful whether dead or alive will be with Jesus.

Paul told the Thessalonians that God did not called us to uncleanness, but he called us unto holiness and also that sin is a manifestation of our disrespect towards God. However, if you remain faithful, that is, holy, not even death can separate you from God (1Thes 4:7-8). This point was later strengthens in 1Thessalonians 5:10, when he said whether we are alive (awake) or asleep (dead) we shall live together with him. In Romans 8:34-39, Paul outlined to the saints scattered throughout Rome that absolutely nothing can separate us from God if we remain faithful.

Jesus before his death encouraged his disciples not to be perturbed about the fact that he will be leaving, but instead charged them to believe in him. He further states that the fact that he goes is the fact that he will come again to receive his disciples unto himself, so WHERE he is there they will be also (John 14:1-5). He did not promise multiple returns, but one; thus he said, "I will come again."

The fact is, if you are dead you will be resurrected (Matt 24:29-31; 1Cor 15:23; 1Thess 4:13-17; Rev 20:2-6) and if you are alive you shall be translated (1Cor 15:50-54; 1Thess 4:17). It is both the resurrected and translated saints that are "caught up/rapture" together to meet Jesus in the air. From here on we will never be separated from him again.

The dead will rise (resurrect) first.

We are often told that the dead in Christ will rise first as if the living can be resurrected. Some are teaching that when Jesus comes all the living will die immediately in order to be resurrected, but this is a lie (1Cor 15:50-54). The fact is, there are two set of dead: the just and the unjust. The just are the Dead in Christ, which are the dead saints. They and only they will rise first and the rest of the dead, that is, the unjust dead will remain wherever they are until the end of the millennial (1000 years) reign of Jesus Messieh upon this earth (Rev 20:5).

The Apostle John describes this resurrection sequence in Revelation 20 in which he called the resurrection of the Just, the "First Resurrection", which the Tribulation martyrs will be a part of (Rev 20:1-5). Note John did not say it is the third (3rd) phase of three phase first resurrection, which includes Jesus' resurrection with another at the start or some way during the Tribulation. Neither did he say it is the second part of split mystical rapture, but he said, "This is the First..." All those who teach that there is a resurrection of dead saints 7, 3 ½, or 1 ¾ years before the one John teaches in Rev 20 are Liars. This concoction will evidently lead to the false doctrines of two last trumps and two raptures of the saints, which is no where found in the scriptures. Daniel had two resurrection in the last day; one for the just and one for the unjust (Dan 12:2). Jesus doctrine on the resurrection is no different (John 11:18-27). In fact when Mary told Jesus that Lazarus would rise in the resurrection on the Last day; if this "Split Mystical or Three Phase Resurrection" was true then Jesus of necessity would have told her on which of the "Last Day" will Lazarus be raise.

What is the real meaning of the phrase "Hath Part in the First Resurrection"?

"But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years (Rev 20:5-6)"

The phrase "Hath Part" has been wrestled by many theologians to mean something that is foreign to the scriptures; such as "Part" is a division of the Pre-trib (or Mid-trib or Pre-wrath) rapture. However, the phrase "hath part" means to be joined in the same company at the same time as the martyrs who were resurrected. Up to verse 5 John describe the resurrection of the Tribulation martyr; this he said is the "First Resurrection", however, in verse 6 he went on to give the complete revelation of all dead in Christ who will be resurrected when he comes. Thus, he said, "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power." It is clear from verse 6 that those who have triumph over death are a part of the first resurrection, but John sad the first resurrection is Post Tribulation. So if there is a resurrection of just before the one mentioned in Revelation 20:1-5, the participants have not triumphed over death.

What about Jesus' resurrection? John was not dealing with Jesus' resurrection here; his focus was the resurrection of the saints and sinners when Jesus returns. It is explicit from verse 6 that Jesus is not a part of those resurrected in the first resurrection John here describes. Notice the last two phrases of verse 6: "but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years". The pronoun "THEY" in the phrase refers to they that are a part of the first resurrection who have triumphed over death. John said that they will be priests of God and of Christ. If Jesus resurrection was a part of this then he would be at this time a priest of God and of Christ, but Jesus is Christ. John also said that that they will rein with Christ a 1000 years. Again, will Christ reign with Christ? This proves Jesus is not a part of the first resurrection according to John.

Who are a part of the first resurrection? Answer, all the dead saints. This can be broken down into two large groups, that is, Old and New Testament saints. The New Testament saints can be further divided into two sub-groups, which are those who died before or during the Tribulation. John describes in Revelation 20:4 some of the saints, who were killed in the Tribulation as a result of their faith in Jesus, which are referred to as the Tribulation martyrs. These he said are a part of the first resurrection. He did not describe those who died in the Tribulation from natural causes or even those who were killed for other reasons. John just used verse 4 to emphasize that the saints are rapture after the Tribulation and not before or some where during it.

One other thing is that, Pre-trib, Mid-trib and Pre-wrath believe that only the "Tribulation Saints" are resurrected at the end of the Great Tribulation, but did not Job, who was not an Israelite nor could ever be considered a Tribulation Saint without teaching the false doctrine of reincarnation said he will be resurrected on the Last Day (Job 19:7-9), just like what was said about Lazarus. Are there two "Last Day" again we would have been told if this was true. A Post-trib resurrection is the first, that is, there is none before it to which the saints are expecting to be a part.

Those raptured are the Saints.

If you really have a revelation of the Oneness of God you would really start to understand that both Old and New Testament dead saints are what constitute the DEAD IN CHRIST (1Thes 4:16), since there is one God and his name is Jesus. Thus the God of the both testament is Jesus. Paul said to the Corinthians,

"But everyman in his own order: Christ the first-fruits; afterwards they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the Kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power (1Cor 15:23-24)."

In Paul's mind, from Christ to the end of the world there are three different resurrections, with the first being Christ's, the first-fruit. The next in his sequence is when he comes and only those that belong to him, that is, the dead saints or the dead in Christ will be resurrected. The last is after the millennial reign where the unjust dead will be resurrected. So we have Christ's resurrection; followed by ONE resurrection of the just and ONE for the unjust. There is no scripture that teaches that there are TWO or THREE PHASE resurrections of the just. This is more proof that this split rapture / resurrection argument is a lie and its supporters are all liars.

Note what Paul said about the third resurrection in his Corinthians resurrection sequence:

"Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the Kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put his enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the son be subject unto him that put all things under him that God may be all in all (1Cor 15:24-28)."

He was careful to let us know when this last resurrection, which ends the sequence will be. It will be after the Kingdom is handed over to God at the same time the last and final enemy, which is DEATH will be destroyed (Rev 20:13-15).

Comparing the resurrection sequence in 1Cor 15; 1Thes 4; and Rev 20?

In 1Cor 15, Paul is teaching on resurrection and by so doing highlighted the importance of Jesus' bodily resurrection as a part of the Apostles' doctrine (1Cor 15:1-22). It is with this in mind that he included in the sequence of 1Cor 15:23 the resurrection of Christ even though it was in the past. In 1Thessalonians and Revelation 20 there was no need to mention the resurrection of Jesus since it was in the past and both these context shows that the writers were encouraging the saints about something that is still future and that they were expected to share in. They were comforting the saints by offering them hope in God.

To conclude, the resurrection that commences the sequence in 1Cor 15:23, which is Christ resurrection after three days in the Tomb was left out of the sequence of John's in Rev 20 and Paul's in 1Thes 4. Also the first resurrection of Rev 20 correspond to the first resurrection in 1Thes 4 and second of the sequence in 1Cor 15:23.

To teach that the resurrection of the dead consist of three phases beginning with Jesus, which many are claiming is the "First Resurrection" would contradict 1Corinthians 15:23. Paul said Christ is the "First-fruit", which means he is the first one to be resurrected never to die again. That is, Christ had commenced the resurrection sequence. He did not say Christ was the "First Phase" of a "Three Phase" first resurrection. If this was true then Paul would have only recorded the "First" and the "Second phase" and made no mention of the "Third phase". Not only that, but would have skipped the "Third phase" entirely and records the "Second resurrection" which would be after the Kingdom is handed over. This would be a rather strange phenomenon.

Comparing Passages with the last Trumpet:

"Immediately after the Tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened…… And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other (Matt 24:29, 31).
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed (1Cor 15:51-52).

Jesus said that there will be a gathering of saints after the angel sound the trumpet, to this the Apostle Paul agrees, however, he called it the last trump. When will this last trump be? The Apostle John answered this beautifully in the Book of Revelation.

And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever (Rev 11:15).

Notice the context of Revelation 11 is the Great tribulation. There were seven angels with seven trumpets sounding, which span a couple of chapters. Chapter 11 commences with two end-time preachers identified as martyrs. Their job description and the place where they are fulfilling their ministry are both describe. Nothing is said about their identity, so trying to identify them will be spurious at best. Verse 11 comes at the close of their ministry followed by the earthquake in the Great city, Jerusalem, which cause a tenth of the city to fall. Almost every important theologians accepts that Revelation 11 is dealing with the Great Tribulation; thus, the last trumpet, which will come from the seventh and last angel is the same last trump in 1Corinthian 15:52 where the dead in Christ are raised incorruptible and the live saints translated.

Careful observation of both passages will reveal that one of the subjects is the kingdom of God. Paul said flesh and blood cannot inherit this kingdom; therefore a glorified human body, which is immortal and incorruptible, is needed for both the dead and living. All this he said will occur at the last trump, when the second aspect of the kingdom comes. John said that when the seventh angel sounded the kingdom appeared and Jesus Messieh's millennial rein was ushered in. This is more proof that the trumpet sounded by the seventh angel in Revelation 11:15 is last and final trumpet to which the Apostle Paul made mention to in 1Corinthians 15:52.

There are many that are now teaching the rapture out of Revelation 4:1. This perversion arises out comparison of passages with the word trumpet and the phrase "Come up hither". John is said to represent the church so anywhere John goes the church goes. Here he was told to come up higher, which many interprets to mean that the church is here rapture to heaven. They claim that because the word "Church" is not mention in the tribulation portion of the book of Revelation (Chapter 4-19) is proof that the church was rapture in Revelation 4:1. We will now look at the verse to see what it teaches.

"After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter (Rev 4:1)."

It is clear from the Text that John did not hear the sound of a trumpet, but a voice was talking to him, which sounds like a trumpet. John was told to go up higher to get a revelation of the future. John was dealing with the Churches located in Asia minor, not all of Asia, but the province of Asia minor about their present state and now there is a shift from the present to the future. He was about to get some revelation about prophetic events that is important to the entire church and not just those of Asia Minor. To teach rapture from this verse shows that one is unskillful in the word of God.

Come up higher in revelation 4:1 does not mean rapture. To teach that anywhere John goes the Church goes is madness. Where is the Church in Revelation 13:1? According to the foregone assumption it would be on the beach. Will she be dressed in her bikini? Is this the real idea behind the "Church-honey moon doctrine"? But is the Church expected to be moving between heaven and earth as what is depicted of the Apostle John in the book of Revelation? No, no and another emphatic no.

The reapers and harvest (First-fruit harvest and ingathering):

Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them. And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs (Rev 14:12-20).


There is only one coming of the Lord in the Book of Revelation and it is in Chapter 19 at the end of the Great Tribulation and the rapture which will take place when he comes is described in Chapter 20 as one of the events that will take place when Jesus returns. It is true that the rapture is prefigured in Chapters 6, 11, 14, and 16 under the seventh seal, seventh and last trumpet, the harvest of the earth and AFTER seventh vial / bowl was poured out. The important thing to understand when reading the Seals, trumpets, and vials of book of Revelation is "Recapitulation". This really refers to one going (stepping) back to get added information.

The seven trumpets do not follow immediately after the seven seals are finished opening; then the vials, but what we see is the writer recapping or stepping back in order to add some more information. For example, rapture is prefigured under the seventh seal, the seventh, trumpet, and after seventh vial. There are many other such examples, but time will fail us to deal with all them here; however, rapture is also prefigured in the Chapter 14, under the theme "Harvest".

It is clear from the above passage that there is a harvest of the earth, which will be a fulfillment to what was predicted by the Lord Jesus (Matt 13:24-30; 36-43; 24:29-31). The reapers are Angels who will be given specific instructions and will do exactly as they are told. The "Good" will be harvest first; then the "Bad". Notice the description John gave for the Angel who will harvest the "Bad", "he had power over fire". This angel gathers the "Bad" and cast them into the winepress of God's wrath. This is the Lake of fire, no wonder why he is said to have power over fire. This is judgment upon the ungodly, and redemption for the just; hence it is known as the "Day of Redemption" to the righteous and "Day of Judgment" to the ungodly.

Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain (Jam 5:7).
Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month. (Joel 2:23).

The Apostle James preaching out of Joel make some remarkable predictions when he said the Husbandman, who is Jesus, is waiting for the fruits of earth to mature. James said it will be matured only after there is a former and a latter rain. This is indicative of a long time gap and not an any moment scenario. It is accepted among theologians that Pentecost was the former rain, which ripens the "Firstfruits" harvest and the latter is expected to ripen the crops for the "Ingathering" harvest. However, there is much confusion about the latter. It is true that there was a mighty "Apostolic" revival in 1900 at Azusa Street, which many believed was the latter rain. If this is true then we are still living in this period of the latter rain, which will increase as we draw closure to the closing of time.

This early and latter rain has a lot of ancient antiquity, in that it depicts the farming season in Israel. There would generally be an early rain to commence the harvest season, which is known as the "firstfruit" harvest; and then when we drew closer to the end there would have been a last rain that will ripen the grain for the final harvest, known as "Ingathering". The same is true about the preparation of the Church to meet their God. We believe that there will be a great end time revival, which will results in a mighty harvesting of souls as the Apostles have predicted. As the true Messienic doctrine of the Post Tribulation return and rapture again is preached into the all the earth many Jews and Gentile will believe and be a part of the New Israel by faith in Jesus the Messieh. They will obey Acts 2:38 for the saving of their souls.

Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? From whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn (Matt 13:24-30).

Do not become agitated or anxious; there is a day set in which Jesus will judge the world in righteousness. Jesus stewards wanted to gather up the tares as soon as they are identified, but he said, "Let them alone until the harvest." The interpretation of the parable given:

Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. (Matt 13:36-43)

Recall that the steward wanted to remove the tares from the field. Jesus now says the tares are the children of the devil; hence they are sinners and the field is the world. Thus to remove the tare from the field is tantamount to the eradication of the wicked from the face of the earth. Grace will never entertain a destructive thought; so Grace said let them alone. You do not know who will be converted. Be patient and see what would become of them by the end of the season, that is, wait until the Harvest. But when is this harvest? It is at the End of the World and not any moment as Covenant dispensationalists will want us to believe (Matt 24:3; 28:20). It would be easier to know the fate of all in the end than before the end; thus you can gather the tares for the fire and wheat, which are the children of the Kingdom (Church) into the barns of God.

In this harvest Jesus again will send forth his angelic reapers who will gather all sinners and cast them into the furnace of fire to be burned. It is then and only then will the righteous shine forth in the Kingdom of their Father.

Conclusion

In concluding we have shown from scriptures that the "Rapture" is the resurrection of dead saints and the translation of live saints when Jesus comes with both group being caught up to meet Jesus Messieh. The scriptures properly interpreted will reveal that the Rapture will be when Jesus comes, which the writers of the books of Bible unanimously agree is after the Tribulation and at the end of the Antichrist reign. So I believe in a Post-Tribulation rapture as did all the apostles and as such believe that the Church will be on earth to face the Man of sin, the Antichrist. It is now clear that Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib, Pre-Wrath, Past-Trib, etc. is false and must be rejected on the basis that they are not a part of the "Apostle's Doctrine".

The Apostle Jude said we must earnestly contend for the FAITH, not just any faith friend, but the Apostolic Faith, which include the Post-Tribulation rapture.

The Rapture

Coming of Jesus With All His Saints

Doomsday May 21, 2011 Proving Pre-Trib theories and claims false

Peace be upon the Israel of God.

Jesus Son